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Did the Government Crack "Coded" Messages of Suspected Terrorist?
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Cloaked
2010-11-27 19:14:18 UTC
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I was just reading this article http://huff.to/exjkl4 on the Huffington Post
and this passage caught my eye. "The two used coded language in which the FBI
believes Mohamud discussed traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent
jihad," the documents said.

In June an FBI agent contacted Mohamud "under the guise of being affiliated
with" the suspected terrorist. But the documents did not say how federal
officials first became aware of Mohamud."

The article does not say whether they suspected terrorist was using PGP or
similar encryption engine, but I'd like to know what format was used for the
"coded" message. And by the way, it appears that this guy was intent on
harming innocent people and as an American citizen, I'm glad he was caught.
I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
Anne Onime
2010-11-27 22:53:21 UTC
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Post by Cloaked
I was just reading this article http://huff.to/exjkl4 on the
Huffington Post and this passage caught my eye. "The two used
coded language in which the FBI believes Mohamud discussed
traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent jihad," the
documents said.
In June an FBI agent contacted Mohamud "under the guise of being
affiliated with" the suspected terrorist. But the documents did
not say how federal officials first became aware of Mohamud."
The article does not say whether they suspected terrorist was
using PGP or similar encryption engine, but I'd like to know what
format was used for the "coded" message. And by the way, it
appears that this guy was intent on harming innocent people and as
an American citizen, I'm glad he was caught. I'm just curious how
they cracked the case.
You need to decode the meaning of CODED LANGUAGE.
Cloaked
2010-11-28 16:44:52 UTC
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Post by Anne Onime
Post by Cloaked
In June an FBI agent contacted Mohamud "under the guise of being
affiliated with" the suspected terrorist. But the documents did
not say how federal officials first became aware of Mohamud."
The article does not say whether they suspected terrorist was
using PGP or similar encryption engine, but I'd like to know what
format was used for the "coded" message. And by the way, it
appears that this guy was intent on harming innocent people and as
an American citizen, I'm glad he was caught. I'm just curious how
they cracked the case.
You need to decode the meaning of CODED LANGUAGE.
That's the whole point of my question. Did the suspect use PGP as the "coded"
reference in the article. Please note the article has changed since my first
posting. I can not find any reference now to the word "coded". The new
pertintent language in the article now reads:

"The FBI monitored Mohamud's e-mail and found he was in contact with people
overseas, asking how he could travel to Pakistan and join the fight for
jihad, according to an FBI affidavit."

"The law enforcement official said Mohamud e-mailed a friend living in
Pakistan who had been a student in Oregon in 2007-2008 and been in Yemen as
well."

"The e-mail exchanges led the FBI to believe that Mohamud's friend in
Pakistan "had joined others involved in terrorist activities" and was
inviting Mohamud to join him, according to the affidavit."

Please note here's the text from the orginal article below:

"The two used coded language in which the FBI
believes Mohamud discussed traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent
jihad,".

Why was the word coded removed from the original post???
Hito Shirezu
2010-11-28 18:58:46 UTC
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Post by Cloaked
Post by Anne Onime
You need to decode the meaning of CODED LANGUAGE.
That's the whole point of my question. Did the suspect use PGP as the
"coded" reference in the article.
That's the whole point of needing to understand the meaning of the word
"coded". It doesn't say any sort of encryption was used at all. The
emails could have been secret word type deals, with "baby shower"
substituted for "jihad" and "gifts" in lieu of "nuclear devices" or such.
They could have been trivially "cracked".

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Post by Cloaked
"The two used coded language in which the FBI believes Mohamud discussed
traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent jihad,".
Why was the word coded removed from the original post???
Who cares? It's totally ambiguous anyway...
Anne Onime
2010-11-27 23:25:48 UTC
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Post by Cloaked
I was just reading this article http://huff.to/exjkl4 on the Huffington Post
and this passage caught my eye. "The two used coded language in which the FBI
believes Mohamud discussed traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent
jihad," the documents said.
In June an FBI agent contacted Mohamud "under the guise of being affiliated
with" the suspected terrorist. But the documents did not say how federal
officials first became aware of Mohamud."
The article does not say whether they suspected terrorist was using PGP or
similar encryption engine, but I'd like to know what format was used for the
"coded" message. And by the way, it appears that this guy was intent on
harming innocent people and as an American citizen, I'm glad he was caught.
I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
Probably using a non-standard browser window size.
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Rooster
2010-11-28 03:02:16 UTC
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Post by Anne Onime
Probably using a non-standard browser window size.
ROFL

and no doubt without his bluejeans on.
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
2010-11-28 04:01:52 UTC
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:02:16 +0100, Rooster
Post by Rooster
Post by Anne Onime
Probably using a non-standard browser window size.
ROFL
and no doubt without his bluejeans on.
Ah, yes! The jeans was the icing on the cake! I wonder what size they were.
Kulin Remailer
2010-11-28 02:30:45 UTC
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Post by Cloaked
I was just reading this article http://huff.to/exjkl4 on the
Huffington Post
Post by Cloaked
and this passage caught my eye. "The two used coded language in which the FBI
believes Mohamud discussed traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent
jihad," the documents said.
In June an FBI agent contacted Mohamud "under the guise of being affiliated
with" the suspected terrorist. But the documents did not say how federal
officials first became aware of Mohamud."
The article does not say whether they suspected terrorist was using PGP or
similar encryption engine, but I'd like to know what format was used for the
"coded" message. And by the way, it appears that this guy was intent on
harming innocent people and as an American citizen, I'm glad he was caught.
I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
I doubt the government (or any government) can crack PGP or similar
encryption, unless they found some error in the program code. The
terrorists were probably using plaintext and word substitution which
the FBI picked up as odd conversations, arising their suspicions.

People have used TrueCrypt and OpenPGP and never have I heard of a case
where the intelligence agencies cracked the messages in transit. They
may have confiscated or even broken into computers to get at the source
of the messages but I'm skeptical they can crack AES, RSA or even 3DES.
But if only a few of us use encryption the ones that do stick out like
a sore thumb and may get flagged and investigated. OTOH if we ALL start
using it the intelligence community is in deep trouble.
Gogarty
2010-11-28 16:14:53 UTC
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Granted, this guy was intent on mayhem. He also does not look very bright. But
stings trouble me. They have been onto him for five months and
enthusiastically helped him set up his attack. What's wrong with this picture?
Seems to me they should have just let him know they were onto him and would be
watching him at all times. Sort of like parking an empty patrol car beside the
highway. Does marvels for stopping speeding at very low cost. Now we have the
cost of trying this guy and then supporting him for the next eighty years.
Nomen Nescio
2010-11-28 19:35:07 UTC
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Post by Gogarty
Granted, this guy was intent on mayhem. He also does not look very
bright. But stings trouble me.
Of course they do! Your filthy pedofuck ass lives in mortal FEAR of
stings because that's how a huge percentage of you fuckwits get nabbed.

And by the way fuckwit... you're intent of mayhem and not so bright,
yourself.

PKB
Anne Onime
2010-11-28 19:38:41 UTC
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Post by Gogarty
Granted, this guy was intent on mayhem. He also does not look very
bright. But stings trouble me.
Of course they do! Your filthy pedofuck ass lives in mortal FEAR of
stings because that's how a huge percentage of you fuckwits get nabbed.

And by the way fuckwit... you're intent of mayhem and not so bright,
yourself.

PKB
Bubba
2010-11-28 21:33:46 UTC
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Post by Cloaked
I was just reading this article http://huff.to/exjkl4 on the Huffington Post
and this passage caught my eye. "The two used coded language in which the FBI
believes Mohamud discussed traveling to Pakistan to prepare for "violent
jihad," the documents said.
In June an FBI agent contacted Mohamud "under the guise of being affiliated
with" the suspected terrorist. But the documents did not say how federal
officials first became aware of Mohamud."
The article does not say whether they suspected terrorist was using PGP or
similar encryption engine, but I'd like to know what format was used for the
"coded" message. And by the way, it appears that this guy was intent on
harming innocent people and as an American citizen, I'm glad he was caught.
I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
Never underestimate the gullibility of the public. If you were an eskimo,
the government and their fabricated, packaged, sanitized, whitewashed,
mass marketed, parroted, government owned, programmed and controlled
media, their teleprompter readers, and their ignorant brainwashed audience
could sell you an igloo.

Polly want a cracker?
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Bub
Max Kessler
2010-12-12 21:39:05 UTC
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he was caught. I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
How much do you wanna bet his passphrase was "***@d"?
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Mark IV
2010-12-12 22:00:01 UTC
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he was caught. I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
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Ari Silverstein
2010-12-12 22:04:25 UTC
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Post by Mark IV
he was caught. I'm just curious how they cracked the case.
http://gayincarolina.jottit.com/mark_knows_mooslims_!!
Mark IV The Muslim Killer
*lol*

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