OpenPGP and Usenet?

Post by Justin
So I tried a little experiment. I tried to post an encrypted message on
The message cannot be encrypted because there are newsgroup recipients.
Please re-send the message without encryption.
Is this a restriction on the server I'm using?

whoops... I forgot to mention I'm using Enigmail. Sorry.

Juergen Nieveler

2008-07-22 08:13:50 UTC

Post by Justin
So I tried a little experiment. I tried to post an encrypted message
The message cannot be encrypted because there are newsgroup
recipients.
Please re-send the message without encryption.
Is this a restriction on the server I'm using?

whoops... I forgot to mention I'm using Enigmail. Sorry.

That's logical: Enigmail checks the recipients to determine the keys -
but you don't have the public key for a newsgroup on your keyring, so
you can't encrypt to it.

If you don't tell Enigmail who to encrypt to, it can't encrypt :-)

Juergen Nieveler

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Justin

2008-07-22 11:31:08 UTC

whoops... I forgot to mention I'm using Enigmail. Sorry.

That's logical: Enigmail checks the recipients to determine the keys -
but you don't have the public key for a newsgroup on your keyring, so
you can't encrypt to it.
If you don't tell Enigmail who to encrypt to, it can't encrypt :-)
Juergen Nieveler

Ah ha... So I need somebody's public key to encrypt to.
How to I tell enigmail to encrypt using a specific key?

Juergen Nieveler

2008-07-22 14:20:03 UTC

Post by Juergen Nieveler
If you don't tell Enigmail who to encrypt to, it can't encrypt :-)

Ah ha... So I need somebody's public key to encrypt to.
How to I tell enigmail to encrypt using a specific key?

You can't, at least not for a newsgroup.

As newsgroups are meant to be used for public messages, encrypting to
them obviously wasn't anticipated by the Enigmail developers - hence
the error message.

You can only use whatever GPG frontend you have installed (GPGShell for
example) to encrypt the text in the clipboard or current window).

Juergen Nieveler

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Justin

2008-07-22 14:57:42 UTC

Post by Juergen Nieveler
If you don't tell Enigmail who to encrypt to, it can't encrypt :-)

Ah ha... So I need somebody's public key to encrypt to.
How to I tell enigmail to encrypt using a specific key?

You can't, at least not for a newsgroup.
As newsgroups are meant to be used for public messages, encrypting to
them obviously wasn't anticipated by the Enigmail developers - hence
the error message.
You can only use whatever GPG frontend you have installed (GPGShell for
example) to encrypt the text in the clipboard or current window).
Juergen Nieveler

Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

Juergen Nieveler

2008-07-22 18:57:06 UTC

Post by Justin
Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

But you should have gpg.exe - if you hadn't, Enigmail wouldn't work
either ;-)

Juergen Nieveler

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Justin

2008-07-22 19:47:26 UTC

Post by Justin
Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

But you should have gpg.exe - if you hadn't, Enigmail wouldn't work
either ;-)
Juergen Nieveler

I'm still not following.
I think I'm encountering some Windows-isms.
Where do I tell GPGshell to find the correct file?

Neil W Rickert

2008-07-23 15:50:03 UTC

Post by Justin
Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

Look under "C:\Program Files". There is probably a directory there
called "GnuPG", or at least one called "Gnu" or similar. You should
be able to find "gpg.exe" by going down that tree.

Hmm, I'm not a windows guy. But can't you open a Command Prompt
window, then do:

CD \
dir gpg.exe /s

and won't that search subdirectories to find it?

Justin

2008-07-23 17:42:44 UTC

Post by Neil W Rickert

Post by Justin
Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

Look under "C:\Program Files". There is probably a directory there
called "GnuPG", or at least one called "Gnu" or similar. You should
be able to find "gpg.exe" by going down that tree.
Hmm, I'm not a windows guy. But can't you open a Command Prompt
CD \
dir gpg.exe /s
and won't that search subdirectories to find it?

I hate Windows... trust me I'm trying my best to get off it. I have a
Macbook and I'll eventually get a laptop and install FreeBSD> Int he
meantime all my financial stuff is WIndows based.

Yeah, I can hit gpg at the cmd.
Its there, I just don't have the .9 version.

Is there an easier way to just highlight a bunch of text, hit encrypt,
choose the public key to encrypt to, and paste that to a usenet message?

1PW

2008-07-23 18:52:34 UTC

Post by Neil W Rickert

Post by Justin
Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

Look under "C:\Program Files". There is probably a directory there
called "GnuPG", or at least one called "Gnu" or similar. You should
be able to find "gpg.exe" by going down that tree.
Hmm, I'm not a windows guy. But can't you open a Command Prompt
CD \
dir gpg.exe /s
and won't that search subdirectories to find it?

I hate Windows... trust me I'm trying my best to get off it. I have a
Macbook and I'll eventually get a laptop and install FreeBSD> Int he
meantime all my financial stuff is WIndows based.
Yeah, I can hit gpg at the cmd.
Its there, I just don't have the .9 version.
Is there an easier way to just highlight a bunch of text, hit encrypt,
choose the public key to encrypt to, and paste that to a usenet message?

Hello Justin:

Can you tell us exactly what you are ultimately trying to achieve?

You have found the comp.security.pgp.test group.

If you emailed yourself an encrypted message, then posted the encrypted body
to comp.security.pgp.test you might get what you're trying to achieve.

If you're trying to encrypt to someone other than yourself, why not encrypt
in ordinary email to them?

Best regards.

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Justin

2008-07-24 02:26:28 UTC

Post by 1PW

Post by Neil W Rickert

Post by Justin
Ah ha. I'm getting closer.
I installed Gnupg, and the installed GPGshell, but GPGshell is asking
for the location of gnupg.exe. I don't have gnupg.exe

Look under "C:\Program Files". There is probably a directory there
called "GnuPG", or at least one called "Gnu" or similar. You should
be able to find "gpg.exe" by going down that tree.
Hmm, I'm not a windows guy. But can't you open a Command Prompt
CD \
dir gpg.exe /s
and won't that search subdirectories to find it?

I hate Windows... trust me I'm trying my best to get off it. I have a
Macbook and I'll eventually get a laptop and install FreeBSD> Int he
meantime all my financial stuff is WIndows based.
Yeah, I can hit gpg at the cmd.
Its there, I just don't have the .9 version.
Is there an easier way to just highlight a bunch of text, hit encrypt,
choose the public key to encrypt to, and paste that to a usenet message?

Can you tell us exactly what you are ultimately trying to achieve?
You have found the comp.security.pgp.test group.
If you emailed yourself an encrypted message, then posted the encrypted body
to comp.security.pgp.test you might get what you're trying to achieve.
If you're trying to encrypt to someone other than yourself, why not encrypt
in ordinary email to them?
Best regards.

Basically I want to do what Normen Nescio did above on the 14th.
He posted a block of encrypted text, that when I clicked on his post
Enigmail triggered and asked for my passphrase - hhich of course wasn't
correct.
Had he used my public key, I would have been able to see what he posted.

Justin

2008-07-22 15:29:31 UTC

Post by Juergen Nieveler
If you don't tell Enigmail who to encrypt to, it can't encrypt :-)

Ah ha... So I need somebody's public key to encrypt to.
How to I tell enigmail to encrypt using a specific key?

You can't, at least not for a newsgroup.
As newsgroups are meant to be used for public messages, encrypting to
them obviously wasn't anticipated by the Enigmail developers - hence
the error message.
You can only use whatever GPG frontend you have installed (GPGShell for
example) to encrypt the text in the clipboard or current window).
Juergen Nieveler

OK... I'm getting closer.
I installed gpg4win
from http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html
and it says I need version 1.4.9, when I have 1.4.7. I can't find 1.4.9
for Windows...

Is there another interfact I can use? My othter problem is I use a
Macbook too, so I'll need cross platform ability...

David W. Hodgins

2008-07-22 18:39:41 UTC

Post by Justin
I installed gpg4win
from http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html
and it says I need version 1.4.9, when I have 1.4.7. I can't find 1.4.9
for Windows...

I havn't used gpg4win, but you can get version 1.4.9 of gnupg from
ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.9.exe

Post by Justin
Is there another interfact I can use? My othter problem is I use a
Macbook too, so I'll need cross platform ability...

The Mac versions are available at
http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Justin

2008-07-22 18:46:11 UTC

Post by David W. Hodgins

Post by Justin
I installed gpg4win
from http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html
and it says I need version 1.4.9, when I have 1.4.7. I can't find 1.4.9
for Windows...

I havn't used gpg4win, but you can get version 1.4.9 of gnupg from
ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/binary/gnupg-w32cli-1.4.9.exe

I already installed that, and I still get the error. the filename isn't
exact apparently.

Post by David W. Hodgins

Post by Justin
Is there another interfact I can use? My othter problem is I use a
Macbook too, so I'll need cross platform ability...

The Mac versions are available at
http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/
Regards, Dave Hodgins

Juergen Nieveler

2008-07-23 06:52:33 UTC

Post by Justin
I already installed that, and I still get the error. the filename
isn't exact apparently.

Which file is there, then?

Is there a gpg.exe in the directory you installed GnuPG to?

Juergen Nieveler

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Justin

2008-07-23 17:40:28 UTC

Post by Justin
I already installed that, and I still get the error. the filename
isn't exact apparently.

Which file is there, then?
Is there a gpg.exe in the directory you installed GnuPG to?
Juergen Nieveler

I have one in C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuPG But I'm pretty sure its the .7
not the .9.

David W. Hodgins

2008-07-23 19:28:31 UTC