Discussion:
is there something wrong with my kind of signing the posting ?
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Mr. DAX
2013-01-29 21:54:47 UTC
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Hash: SHA1

Sorry, my English is not so good.

If there is something wrong please tell me what I shall improve.

Thank you und best regards!

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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

iEYEARECAAYFAlEIRTYACgkQUPI2jLiUh5sD2wCghsAgaQqwUjX3VHlP6arjGVPG
pYMAoJi+lKe0enybpXjphmb
g***@invalid.com
2013-01-29 23:09:11 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:54:47 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
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Sorry, my English is not so good.
If there is something wrong please tell me what I shall improve.
Thank you und best regards!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
iEYEARECAAYFAlEIRTYACgkQUPI2jLiUh5sD2wCghsAgaQqwUjX3VHlP6arjGVPG
pYMAoJi+lKe0enybpXjphmbU+a1RXzK8
=Oxjz
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Without having you public key, there is no way we can check your sig.

Post your public key. That way we can check if your post is properly
signed.

Go into your PGPkey ring and find the key you signed this post with.

Copy it via CTRL+C

Paste into your next post, below your signed post.

I'm no expert in this, but this will work.
David E. Ross
2013-01-29 23:43:21 UTC
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Post by g***@invalid.com
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:54:47 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Sorry, my English is not so good.
If there is something wrong please tell me what I shall improve.
Thank you und best regards!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
iEYEARECAAYFAlEIRTYACgkQUPI2jLiUh5sD2wCghsAgaQqwUjX3VHlP6arjGVPG
pYMAoJi+lKe0enybpXjphmbU+a1RXzK8
=Oxjz
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Without having you public key, there is no way we can check your sig.
Post your public key. That way we can check if your post is properly
signed.
Go into your PGPkey ring and find the key you signed this post with.
Copy it via CTRL+C
Paste into your next post, below your signed post.
I'm no expert in this, but this will work.
I was able to verify the signature using PGP 8.0.3.

After selecting the window containing the original message, I requested
[Current Window > Decrypt & Verify]. Of course, that failed; but the
failure message indicated the key ID. Using that key ID, I then
requested PGP to find a key on kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl (my chosen public
key server), which I then imported onto my keyring. Again requesting
[Current Window > Decrypt & Verify], the message was verified against
its signature.

The verification indicated the key was invalid, but that was expected
since I did not sign the key.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph
at <http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html> to see.
Zilbandy
2013-01-30 05:16:08 UTC
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:43:21 -0800, "David E. Ross"
<***@nowhere.invalid> wrote:



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Hash: SHA1

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:43:21 -0800, "David E. Ross"
<***@nowhere.invalid> wrote:


I'm having troubles tying to get PGP to search for keys. I just don't
use this enough to learn what I'm doing. Would you please walk me
through the following paragraph?
Post by David E. Ross
After selecting the window containing the original message, I
requested [Current Window > Decrypt & Verify]. Of course, that
failed; but the failure message indicated the key ID. Using that
key ID, I then
requested PGP to find a key on kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl (my chosen
public key server), which I then imported onto my keyring. Again
requesting [Current Window > Decrypt & Verify], the message was
verified against its signature.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP 8.0.3

iQA/AwUBUQir1vuRrybNECUGEQIaRgCgqcMgdyxQQluT/1HKPh5LFtnW3iYAoMrx
IkKkyUh9LnPAQ4saXSEtIchl
=Rb8s
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
Barry (Zilbandy) Burnett <***@zilbandy.com> Tucson, Arizona USA
Dead Suburban's Home Page: http://zilbandy.com/suburb
PGP Public Key: http://zilbandy.com/pgpkey.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
Zilbandy
Zilbandy
2013-01-30 13:07:46 UTC
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Ok, after a small break, I finally figured it out and got the key
imported, but I still can't figure out how to add
kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl to my server list on PGP8.0.3. I'll figure it
out sooner or later, but if you want to help, thank you, thank you,
thank you. :)


On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:16:08 -0700, Zilbandy
Post by Zilbandy
I'm having troubles tying to get PGP to search for keys. I just
don't use this enough to learn what I'm doing. Would you please walk
me
through the following paragraph?
Post by David E. Ross
After selecting the window containing the original message, I
requested [Current Window > Decrypt & Verify]. Of course, that
failed; but the failure message indicated the key ID. Using that
key ID, I then
requested PGP to find a key on kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl (my chosen
public key server), which I then imported onto my keyring. Again
requesting [Current Window > Decrypt & Verify], the message was
verified against its signature.
- --
Barry (Zilbandy) Burnett <***@zilbandy.com> Tucson, Arizona USA
Dead Suburban's Home Page: http://zilbandy.com/suburb
PGP Public Key: http://zilbandy.com/pgpkey.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Version: PGP 8.0.3

iQA/AwUBUQkbHPuRrybNECUGEQIONwCgyQhgeaKfk0T1733FMONkSDDJJ7EAoKIt
pR8fnqU04RE3+CkFOmx+Kfe8
=6UhU
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
Zilbandy
David E. Ross
2013-01-30 16:34:54 UTC
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Post by Zilbandy
Ok, after a small break, I finally figured it out and got the key
imported, but I still can't figure out how to add
kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl to my server list on PGP8.0.3. I'll figure it
out sooner or later, but if you want to help, thank you, thank you,
thank you. :)
1. Launch PGP. If the icon appears in your taskbar tray, right-click
and select PGPkeys.

2. On the PGP menu bar, select [Edit > Options].

3. On the PGP Options window, select the Servers tab.

4. On the Servers tab, select the New button.

5. On the Add New Server window:
a. Select PGP Keyserver HTTP on the pull-down selection
for Type.
b. Enter kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl in the Name area.
c. Enter 1137 in the Port area.
d. Leave the rest of the items unchanged.

6. Select OK buttons on the Add New Server window and then on
the PGP Options window.

To use kerckhoffs.surfnet.nl to find a key, select the magnifying glass
icon (Open key search window) on the PGP tool bar.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph
at <http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html> to see.
David W. Hodgins
2013-01-30 00:33:26 UTC
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Post by g***@invalid.com
Without having you public key, there is no way we can check your sig.
It's on the key servers.

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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David W. Hodgins
2013-01-29 22:27:15 UTC
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Post by Mr. DAX
If there is something wrong please tell me what I shall improve.
gpg: Signature made Tue 29 Jan 2013 04:55:02 PM EST using DSA key ID B894879B
gpg: Good signature from "Mr. DAX <der-mit-dem-dax-***@die-optimisten.net>"

Regards, Dave Hodgins
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Mr. DAX
2013-01-30 05:48:00 UTC
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Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright everything.

But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my postings.
They told me that there will rabbish like:

LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl

in my postings and there would be something wrong with my newsreader..
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iEYEARECAAYFAlEItBgACgkQUPI2jLiUh5sOBQCeKQlq4HmR5FewiEhBom9bu0Hm
24cAnizbMGS5oomM4xpwgb0lMU9tio74
=kA7X
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Mr. DAX
2013-01-30 21:28:45 UTC
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Would you please give me answer to this:

Thank you and friendly regards!



Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
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Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright
everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my postings.
LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
in my postings and there would be something wrong with my newsreader..
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
iEYEARECAAYFAlEItBgACgkQUPI2jLiUh5sOBQCeKQlq4HmR5FewiEhBom9bu0Hm
24cAnizbMGS5oomM4xpwgb0lMU9tio74
=kA7X
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

iEYEARECAAYFAlEJkJ4ACgkQUPI2jLiUh5sgAwCg7uIbIkS0VMjXqlT7IoOKUS0F
pu0Aniozm+i/cP
f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
2013-01-30 22:03:54 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:28:45 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
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Hash: SHA1
Thank you and friendly regards!
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright
everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my postings.
You might mean that the said "rubbish", not "rabbish".

Rubbish in this case would mean "worthless material". Meaning, there
is no reason to be filling an ordinary Usenet posting with such
*rubbish* as a PGP signed message.

In a way they are right. One of the few times I would want to see a
PGP signed file posted to Usenet is if the person is one who is noted
for giving good technical advice in a group. Before I would follow
the advice, I'd like to make sure it is truly him and not some jerk
trying to cause my computer problems with some very bad advice.

I am just guessing what the word you supplied, "rabbish", might have
meant.
Mr. DAX
2013-01-30 22:18:53 UTC
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Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:03:54 -0600
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
Post by Mr. DAX
Thank you and friendly regards!
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my
You might mean that the said "rubbish", not "rabbish".
Of course I mean "rubbish".
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
Rubbish in this case would mean "worthless material". Meaning, there
is no reason to be filling an ordinary Usenet posting with such
*rubbish* as a PGP signed message.
They did not mean only the pgp signed massage, they told me that they
will find many lines like this in my message:

LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
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VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
In a way they are right. One of the few times I would want to see a
PGP signed file posted to Usenet is if the person is one who is noted
for giving good technical advice in a group. Before I would follow
the advice, I'd like to make sure it is truly him and not some jerk
trying to cause my computer problems with some very bad advice.
I am just guessing what the word you supplied, "rabbish", might have
meant.
Do you find rubbish like

0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=


Or do you find only a correct pgp signed message?

Thank you and friendly Regards..
f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
2013-01-30 23:42:57 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 23:18:53 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
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Hash: SHA1
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:03:54 -0600
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
Post by Mr. DAX
Thank you and friendly regards!
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my
You might mean that the said "rubbish", not "rabbish".
Of course I mean "rubbish".
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
Rubbish in this case would mean "worthless material". Meaning, there
is no reason to be filling an ordinary Usenet posting with such
*rubbish* as a PGP signed message.
They did not mean only the pgp signed massage, they told me that they
LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
In a way they are right. One of the few times I would want to see a
PGP signed file posted to Usenet is if the person is one who is noted
for giving good technical advice in a group. Before I would follow
the advice, I'd like to make sure it is truly him and not some jerk
trying to cause my computer problems with some very bad advice.
I am just guessing what the word you supplied, "rabbish", might have
meant.
Do you find rubbish like
0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Or do you find only a correct pgp signed message?
Thank you and friendly Regards..
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Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
iEYEARECAAYFAlEJnFgACgkQUPI2jLiUh5saGACgzKx6d+yg0QoB088EGFUph8nz
AxwAnRWiqdhb/l2KR9TerzT2GIpda80C
=2gBB
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
*** PGP Signature Status: good
*** Hash: SHA1
*** Signer: Mr. DAX <der-mit-dem-dax-***@die-optimisten.net>
*** Signer Key ID: 0xB894879B
*** Signer Key Fingerprint: BD83 FF5B B7DA 6D70 7404 4493 50F2 368C
B894 879B
*** Signer Key Status: Invalid
*** Signed: 1/30/2013 4:19:04 PM
*** Verified: 1/30/2013 5:41:19 PM
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***

Satisfied?

I found your key here:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50F2368CB894879B
Mr. DAX
2013-01-31 06:11:03 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:42:57 -0600
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
*** PGP Signature Status: good
*** Hash: SHA1
*** Signer Key ID: 0xB894879B
*** Signer Key Fingerprint: BD83 FF5B B7DA 6D70 7404 4493 50F2 368C
B894 879B
*** Signer Key Status: Invalid
*** Signed: 1/30/2013 4:19:04 PM
*** Verified: 1/30/2013 5:41:19 PM
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***
Satisfied?
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50F2368CB894879B
Thank you. ME, I'm satifsfied. I do not see any problems. But others
users in a newsgroup I've been posting.

Friendly reagards



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unruh
2013-01-31 06:36:33 UTC
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Post by Mr. DAX
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:03:54 -0600
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
Post by Mr. DAX
Thank you and friendly regards!
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my
You might mean that the said "rubbish", not "rabbish".
Of course I mean "rubbish".
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
Rubbish in this case would mean "worthless material". Meaning, there
is no reason to be filling an ordinary Usenet posting with such
*rubbish* as a PGP signed message.
They did not mean only the pgp signed massage, they told me that they
LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
In a way they are right. One of the few times I would want to see a
PGP signed file posted to Usenet is if the person is one who is noted
for giving good technical advice in a group. Before I would follow
the advice, I'd like to make sure it is truly him and not some jerk
trying to cause my computer problems with some very bad advice.
I am just guessing what the word you supplied, "rabbish", might have
meant.
Do you find rubbish like
0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Or do you find only a correct pgp signed message?
Thank you and friendly Regards..
It may be that their reader is assuming that your message was encrypted
and thus used your public key to decrypt the message (except of course
they encrypted it) or that they thought that the wohole thing was your
signature.
Mr. DAX
2013-01-31 19:26:31 UTC
Permalink
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Am Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:36:33 GMT
Post by unruh
Post by Mr. DAX
Do you find rubbish like
0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Or do you find only a correct pgp signed message?
Thank you and friendly Regards..
It may be that their reader is assuming that your message was
encrypted and thus used your public key to decrypt the message
(except of course they encrypted it) or that they thought that the
wohole thing was your signature.
Post by Mr. DAX
tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

iEYEARECAAYFAlEKxW4ACgkQUPI2jLiUh5uRjgCfe3L3akihXP38aLQ2Rw/ny4kw
BygAn0JWGmAGUQQon1ALgtgQzC87eZGk
=Azl3
-----END PGP SIGNA
unruh
2013-01-31 19:52:23 UTC
Permalink
I included all that I found in the reply. I do find rubbish like that in
your signature, but not as part of your message.
I am viewing your post via the slrn newsreader on a Linux system ( and
clearly it strips off the signature from the reply, since that is not
here and I did not strip it.) As I said, it is probably some bug in
their newsreader, or email reader that, improperly handles a pgp file.
Post by Mr. DAX
Am Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:36:33 GMT
Post by unruh
Post by Mr. DAX
Do you find rubbish like
0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
Or do you find only a correct pgp signed message?
Thank you and friendly Regards..
It may be that their reader is assuming that your message was
encrypted and thus used your public key to decrypt the message
(except of course they encrypted it) or that they thought that the
wohole thing was your signature.
Post by Mr. DAX
tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkVEIE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLQ0KSGFzaDogU0hBMQ0KDQpTb3JyeSwg
bXkgRW5nbGlzaCBpcyBub3Qgc28gZ29vZC4NCg0KSWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc29tZXRoaW5nIHdyb25n
IHBsZWFzZSB0ZWxsIG1lIHdoYXQgSSBzaGFsbCBpbXByb3ZlLg0KDQpUaGFuayB5b3UgdW5kIGJl
c3QgcmVnYXJkcyENCg0KLS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdu
dVBHIHYyLjAuMTcgKE1pbmdXMzIpDQoNCmlFWUVBUkVDQUFZRkFsRUlSVFlBQ2drUVVQSTJqTGlV
aDVzRDJ3Q2doc0FnYVFxd1VqWDNWSGxQNmFyakdWUEcNCnBZTUFvSmkrbEtlMGVueWJwWGpwaG1i
VSthMVJYeks4DQo9T3hqeg0KLS0tLS1FTkQgUEdQIFNJR05BVFVSRS0tLS0tDQo=
p***@meriaden.com
2013-01-31 20:28:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by unruh
I included all that I found in the reply. I do find rubbish like that in
your signature, but not as part of your message.
I am viewing your post via the slrn newsreader on a Linux system ( and
clearly it strips off the signature from the reply, since that is not
here and I did not strip it.) As I said, it is probably some bug in
their newsreader, or email reader that, improperly handles a pgp file.
The only 'rubbish' in the sig file what you put there as an example to
make your question more clear.

Stop adding that middle part in. Just send us a message containing a
single sentence. Do NOT add anything else into the message. Then sign
it and post it.
Mr. DAX
2013-01-31 22:15:50 UTC
Permalink
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Am Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:28:58 -0600
Post by p***@meriaden.com
Stop adding that middle part in. Just send us a message containing a
single sentence. Do NOT add anything else into the message. Then sign
it and post it.
Okay. I will do this in the next message. Thank you!!



-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

iEYEARECAAYFAlEK7SMACgkQUPI2jLiUh5uHtQCgm1XT8er4Jr69cM5EWj0PuQe5
GacAn1ZRkQeHhiY5
Mr. DAX
2013-01-31 22:17:00 UTC
Permalink
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

this is a test. only 2 sentences.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

iEYEARECAAYFAlEK7VwACgkQUPI2jLiUh5s4iACZAXwsbaewqOr32I894hlpCqQz
jXIAoJmBD0NktsBJFxp0RWpRfCaCT59S
=ATFv
-----END PGP SIGNATURE--
f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
2013-02-01 00:10:54 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:17:00 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
this is a test. only 2 sentences.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
iEYEARECAAYFAlEK7VwACgkQUPI2jLiUh5s4iACZAXwsbaewqOr32I894hlpCqQz
jXIAoJmBD0NktsBJFxp0RWpRfCaCT59S
=ATFv
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
As you can see above, there is no "rubbish" in your post. Everything
there is necessary for a PGP signed post.

Below is the key check on did on the signature.


*** PGP Signature Status: good
*** Hash: SHA1
*** Signer: Mr. DAX <der-mit-dem-dax-***@die-optimisten.net>
*** Signer Key ID: 0xB894879B
*** Signer Key Fingerprint: BD83 FF5B B7DA 6D70 7404 4493 50F2 368C
B894 879B
*** Signer Key Status: Invalid
*** Signed: 1/31/2013 4:17:00 PM
*** Verified: 1/31/2013 6:05:10 PM
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***
Mr. DAX
2013-02-01 08:05:23 UTC
Permalink
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Thank you all very much!!


Am Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:10:54 -0600
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:17:00 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
this is a test. only 2 sentences.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)
iEYEARECAAYFAlEK7VwACgkQUPI2jLiUh5s4iACZAXwsbaewqOr32I894hlpCqQz
jXIAoJmBD0NktsBJFxp0RWpRfCaCT59S
=ATFv
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
As you can see above, there is no "rubbish" in your post. Everything
there is necessary for a PGP signed post.
Below is the key check on did on the signature.
*** PGP Signature Status: good
*** Hash: SHA1
*** Signer Key ID: 0xB894879B
*** Signer Key Fingerprint: BD83 FF5B B7DA 6D70 7404 4493 50F2 368C
B894 879B
*** Signer Key Status: Invalid
*** Signed: 1/31/2013 4:17:00 PM
*** Verified: 1/31/2013 6:05:10 PM
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32)

iEYEARECAAYFAlELd08ACgkQUPI2jLiUh5uLmQCgo75/hT0gNu3T7st848RxpDN4
QCMAoJXoqWE2HvD21x6CJ2wXQL

David E. Ross
2013-01-31 03:23:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:28:45 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you and friendly regards!
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright
everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my postings.
You might mean that the said "rubbish", not "rabbish".
Rubbish in this case would mean "worthless material". Meaning, there
is no reason to be filling an ordinary Usenet posting with such
*rubbish* as a PGP signed message.
In a way they are right. One of the few times I would want to see a
PGP signed file posted to Usenet is if the person is one who is noted
for giving good technical advice in a group. Before I would follow
the advice, I'd like to make sure it is truly him and not some jerk
trying to cause my computer problems with some very bad advice.
I am just guessing what the word you supplied, "rabbish", might have
meant.
During a very heated but on-topic discussion in a newsgroup, someone
started posting messages under my name and E-mail address, expressing
opinions quite the opposite of my real opinions. I immediately started
to PGP-sign all my messages in that newsgroup. I ended each message
with a warning about the forgeries and advising the other participants
to verify my signatures on any message that appeared to be from me. The
forger (there was only one person) soon quit his impersonation of me,
but I continued to PGP-sign my messages in that newsgroup until the
issue under discussion was decisively concluded. All this happened some
14 years ago. Since then, such a situation never again arose for me.

When the US-CERT used to announce new virus attacks or other computer
vulnerabilities in the comp.security.announce newsgroup (which is now
defunct), those announcements were PGP-signed so that users could
authenticate the messages. After all, there are plenty of false
announcements of bogus malware, a few of which can be more destructive
than malware itself.
--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Are taxes too high in the U.S.? Check the bar graph
at <http://www.rossde.com/taxes/trickling.html> to see.
f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
2013-01-31 04:33:23 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:23:34 -0800, "David E. Ross"
Post by David E. Ross
Post by f***@beep.beep.outta.the.way.net
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:28:45 +0100, "Mr. DAX"
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you and friendly regards!
Am Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:48:00 +0100
Post by Mr. DAX
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Thank you all for your answers. For me it seem to be alright everything.
But people in other newsgroups reacted very unfriendly to my postings.
You might mean that the said "rubbish", not "rabbish".
Rubbish in this case would mean "worthless material". Meaning, there
is no reason to be filling an ordinary Usenet posting with such
*rubbish* as a PGP signed message.
In a way they are right. One of the few times I would want to see a
PGP signed file posted to Usenet is if the person is one who is noted
for giving good technical advice in a group. Before I would follow
the advice, I'd like to make sure it is truly him and not some jerk
trying to cause my computer problems with some very bad advice.
I am just guessing what the word you supplied, "rabbish", might have
meant.
During a very heated but on-topic discussion in a newsgroup, someone
started posting messages under my name and E-mail address, expressing
opinions quite the opposite of my real opinions. I immediately started
to PGP-sign all my messages in that newsgroup. I ended each message
with a warning about the forgeries and advising the other participants
to verify my signatures on any message that appeared to be from me. The
forger (there was only one person) soon quit his impersonation of me,
but I continued to PGP-sign my messages in that newsgroup until the
issue under discussion was decisively concluded. All this happened some
14 years ago. Since then, such a situation never again arose for me.
That was exactly my point as to when such is necessary. I kinda hang
in a couple of groups of tekkies giving out software help. It is not
unusual for some idiot forger to use one of the names of a respected
and knowledgeable member of that group in order to give harmful
advice.
Post by David E. Ross
When the US-CERT used to announce new virus attacks or other computer
vulnerabilities in the comp.security.announce newsgroup (which is now
defunct), those announcements were PGP-signed so that users could
authenticate the messages. After all, there are plenty of false
announcements of bogus malware, a few of which can be more destructive
than malware itself.
David E. Ross
Again - exactly a necessary use of PGP signing.
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